Andy Corley on EEM’s 55:11 Podcast – Thoughts on Transformation Through “Come Alongside Ministry” Partnership
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Dirk Smith
Welcome to 55:11 – Season 3, Episode 1. We are excited to have you back and we are excited about this program. Our first episode, we have a very special guest, Andy Corley, who is CEO with Prison Fellowship International (PFI) who is a partner of EEM and a newly entered in partnership arrangement. Looking forward to visiting with Andy, finding out a little bit more about him and talking about what PFI does and just some of the relationship with EEM and PFI. Andy, welcome to the program. Glad to have you on 55:11.
Andy Corley
Thank you, Dirk, and happy new year to everybody who is listening. Great to be with you today.
Brooke Kehl
Yeah, we’re so happy to have you today, Andy. Thank you for joining us. I just want to jump right in and ask you to tell our audience a little bit about your history and kind of what your bio would be for a new group of people learning about you for the first time.
Andy Corley
Yeah, thanks for asking. First of all, I’m a husband, a father and a grandfather now to two great grandkids who we love dearly. I came to PFI by a very circuitous route, which was that I started out my life as a geologist and entered in the commercial world, worked my way out of geology, eventually into running P&L businesses for large global construction materials companies, then moved and switched streams into a completely different sector into cleaning chemicals and into infection control products.
It was as a result of that, that I ended up being on the Board [of Directors] of PFI as a businessman in 2010 and really found my tribe at that point. I just loved the sense of global mission and camaraderie that existed within PFI, but also the opportunity for very effective kingdom work to be done which of course is mandated by the Lord Jesus himself and through the Scriptures. So, just got very passionate about all of that. Sold my shareholding in the business that we had built about six years ago now and at the same time, PFI were looking for a new CEO and President. So, I stepped off the Board [of Directors], they did a global search and I was very privileged to be appointed as CEO and President which has just been a great and wonderful journey.
Dirk Smith
Yeah, one of the things I like about PFI is the fact that you’re at the helm and you don’t have a theology degree. Nothing against theologians – love them – I think there’s a great place for them. But, that’s the one thing that we have in common at EEM. I’ve got an MBA; I’ve got a business background and our president does as well, and it is a business. I love the fact that in all of my meetings that I’ve had with… and I’ve really enjoyed in meeting your exceptional team, many of them, and have just been very impressed with the business acumen that is there. A group of people that recognize, “Hey, this is God’s ministry. There’s no question this is God’s ministry, but we’re called as business men, women, business professionals to run it in an efficient manner, as a business because that’s what it is.” I do appreciate that. It was one of the things that I liked right up front when I started looking at PFI when it came to the table, “Hey, there’s a possible partnership here with PFI.”
I was recently in your beautiful country and went to the Cotswolds. Now you live in, and I’m going to say it wrong, Derbyshire?
Andy Corley
You did say it wrong. That’s right. It’s Derbyshire.
Dirk Smith
I was in the Cotswolds and Derbyshire is what, about two and a half hours north if I’m right Is that right? Something like that?
Andy Corley
That’s right. Yeah. Derbyshire, for your listeners, is where the industrial revolution began. Actually, just five miles away from where I live with my wife, Andrea, is a UNESCO World Heritage site, which runs up a valley, which is where the industrial revolution was born. We get a lot of American visitors coming to see that. Right at the top of the valley is one of our best stately homes, which, wherever I go in the world, when I say, “Do you know Chatsworth house?” which is a stunning, stately home, people know it, which is great.
Dirk Smith
That’s where it is. Okay. So that’s very close to you. Okay.
Andy Corley
Yeah, it is. Yeah.
Dirk Smith
I’ll tell you just I thoroughly enjoy that. I get to Eastern Europe and I’m traveling to Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia. I go through Heathrow, but I never get to get off the plane and just go see England so this last year was quite the treat. I decided to take seven days in the Cotswolds and then three days in London and it was nice, honestly, to be someplace where I didn’t have to have a translator – although, at times I felt like I needed one because there were things said that I had to look to the people I was with and say, “Okay, I think this is what was said but help me make sure I’m understanding this.” But yeah, it was nice.
Andy Corley
Winston Churchill, I think, said that between us and the United States, we are two nations divided by a common language. That is very true.
Dirk Smith
It’s so true. I’m excited to have you on the program and just get to know you. With PFI, one of the things, again, I’m thrilled about this relationship because I just believe so wholeheartedly in what you all do. I think it’s a fantastic work, so needed. It just goes right in line with us. I mean, our tagline: the Bible, we want everyone to get it, and that’s what you’re doing. You want to get the Gospel in the hands of prisoners and recognize that the Gospel has its transformative power. The Spirit’s going to do the work on the hearts and on the lives but you are stepping into that gap and you’re stepping into that space to help push that forward and get that in their hands.
With all the opportunities that are ahead of you this year, and again, I’ve heard lots of great things from PFI and I know you’ve got a lot of things on the table, what are you most excited about that you’re looking ahead at in 2024 and maybe even on beyond that as you’ve done strategic planning?
Andy Corley
Opportunity, I think, Dirk, has never been bigger than it currently is. We’ve worked very hard on on understanding what particular role PFI plays within the global family of Prison Fellowship National Ministries. We’re in 123 countries – cross-cultural, multi-ethnic, cross-confessional – so a true family with real diversity in it.
Our mission is to transform the lives of prisoners, their families and victims through a global network of ministry partners, which means that what we’re really looking for is transformation in the lives of individuals, because there’s a big beating heart of devoted, passionate people in all of those areas that you just talked about. We’re looking for outcomes in individual lives, which is so, so important. But we’re also looking for outcomes in transformation of national ministries as well, because that’s the future of prison ministry going forward.
What I’m really excited about is that on both fronts, we have a really wonderful story by the grace of God to tell. Lots and lots of meaningful, really meaningful interventions in people’s lives. Not in the ones and twos, but in the hundreds of thousands of men and women that are graduating our in-prison programs, tens of thousands of families and children that are being supported. But then the national ministries themselves, we’re able to help them in their own capacity building which effectively positions them for greater work in the future.
These are amazing people in some very, very challenging circumstances, mobilizing through those national ministries, about 60,000 volunteers around the world. So it’s a big distribution network of Kingdom good is how I would describe it around the world and I’m just really excited because the doors couldn’t be wider open in front of us. We’ve earned our stripes. I believe we’re a trusted partner by many prison authorities around the world. Our issue is not getting through the gate so much as how fast we can travel and how much we can actually accomplish because there’s definitely huge opportunity and desire for us to do that.
Dirk Smith
Yeah, that is the challenge. I get it. We were thrilled to come alongside and that’s really the way we view our ministry is really a come alongside ministry. I’ll never forget the early on conversation, I think it was with Rae [Wood], and she was mentioning the success of the PFI program with scripture engagement. I mean, you guys had actually tracked that and said, “When there is scripture engagement, here’s the outcome.” It was off, I mean, off the charts, just skyrocketed. I thought, “Man, this is a hand in glove relationship.” I mean, we publish, print and distribute Bibles and we work in the nations that you work in. This is exactly the come alongside relationship that we’re looking for.
It’s been very exciting to look at the different programs and recognize. That’s it. It’s God’s word. You get God’s word in people’s hands, you let the transformation take place in the heart. If we can come alongside a ministry like PFI and the work that’s being done there, the recidivism rate is going to drop significantly. You’re going to see less people going back into prison, which makes for exactly what we’re called to be, as disciples of Jesus, is to step into those uncomfortable places.
Andy Corley
Absolutely. I love your phrasing, that come alongside ministry, because that does really define for us exactly what we want in our strategic plan and in our mission, which is: when we figured out that we have a role at PFI to play in being a global accelerator or a global catalyst given the huge distribution network which our national ministries represent and a very willing distribution network at that, what we’re really looking for is those come alongside ministries that enable both organizations to step through an open door.
I think that is such an exciting opportunity for us, is to work alongside organizations like your own. We don’t want to reinvent the wheel. You need the access and the distribution network so we get our heads together and figure out how we’re going to do this. It just becomes a win-win, a kingdom win-win.
Dirk Smith
Absolutely.
Andy Corley
It’s great. Everybody loves it.
Dirk Smith
Yeah. For me, Andy, it puts forth what we all should be saying. You hear the saying, but unfortunately, as I have gotten into nonprofit work, and this is about my 20th year in nonprofit, people will use the phrase and say, “There’s no competition amongst lighthouses.” But yet I’ve found sometimes they don’t really believe that and they want to put themselves forward. I think, “This is all for God. This is His work. If we can step into this with PFI, here’s a great organization. We don’t need to reinvent the wheel. Let’s let them do what they do best and we’ll do what we do best and it’ll prevent them from having to go out and buy Bibles and materials we can provide them because that’s what we do best!” and then that lets you all step into what you do.
So it’s a very good partnership. I’m excited about the different nations that we’ve got listed where you’re doing work and honestly, as we’ve looked at and we’ve done a five-year strategic plan with you all looking at the growth over the next five years. Of course, what I’m anxious to hear are the stories. I love to hear the life stories. Ah, they just never cease to amaze me to hear how God transforms a life. You just sit back and it makes you say, “Man, we worship a God who not can do more than we ask or imagine. He’s doing it.” He’s just asking us if we want to come along, if we want to join him.
Andy Corley
That’s right. It’s not only the stories, but then how God transforms lives and then moves people into places that they could never imagine themselves being in, having formerly been incarcerated. We have a number of national ministry leaders that were formerly in prison, and we love that because that’s true transformation, but many of our volunteers have also spent time inside and just God places in their hearts. I mean imagine that, you spend a significant period of your time in prison, and then you get out, you’re enjoying your freedom and the very thing that you want to do is to go back inside prison because of your own experience and share the Good News of Jesus, who has transformed their lives and now they want to share that.
We just have a ton of stories of that type, too many, obviously, for this program, but I’ve got a couple that I’d just love to share with you. One is a gentleman who I met in Ndola, Zambia, called Bernard. Bernard had basically graduated every program in prison that we were offering in Zambia. He very proudly came to me with all the certificates. We celebrate the graduation from our discipleship and evangelism programs. We call them graduations for a very good reason. In almost all cases, when they graduate a program, they’ll get a certificate and they’ll get a copy of the Scriptures, which is where EEM comes in.
We love that model because it’s honoring them. Bernard brought all these certificates out to show me as evidence of how he’d used his time when he’d been in prison and my name is always on those certificates, but for some reason, and this was very unusual, it had not been signed, so I was able to say, “Bernard, this is me,” and was able to sign it there. Somebody had a pen. I mean, we were in rural Zambia. I was able to sign it with him and celebrate what had happened in his own life. He’d been inside for five years.
What was wonderful was that at the same time as him graduating those programs in prison, we had looked after his family of five. He very proudly displayed his kids. We’d had them in our children of prisoners program and they were all doing really well. What was even more beautiful was to hear him then say, “I now live to do two things. One is to take care of my family.” And he was doing that through sustainable gardening that PF [Prison Fellowship] Zambia was helping him with but secondly, he was now offering himself as a volunteer back in the prisons for the programs that he had graduated from. We got a beautiful video of that but I’ll never forget that interaction with Bernard just because it was so real. He was [part of] a family that not just the father had come through his incarceration in a way that was completely transformational for him, but also for his family as well. Just very, very beautiful. Like I say, we’ve just got so many stories of that kind, but that one was a special one for me.
Dirk Smith
Yeah. That’s fantastic. Fantastic. Just the story of redemption, reconciliation, redemption. That’s it. That’s the Gospel and nowhere played out any more visibly than in the work that you’re involved in. In all of our lives, that’s the power of the Gospel is that it doesn’t rely on me and His grace is there. I look back on my life, we all can look back on our lives and say, “Man, I’m glad. I’m so thankful for God’s grace.” But so visible in their lives. It’s very biblical to who’s forgiven, they’re going to forgive. I mean, they’re going to have that power, that feeling of forgiveness and reconciliation and that come alongside attitude of PFI to say, “Hey, you got this. You can do this and we’re gonna help you through this process.” The partners that you are developing, the discipleship that’s happening is fantastic.
Andy Corley
Psalm 68 gives us a real window into the character of God. It talks about God in His holy habitation is defender of the widow and father to the fatherless. It’s giving us an insight into what God is like. My own translation of that in His holy habitation is God, when He is at home, is defender of the widow, father to the fatherless. He places the lonely in families. He leads the prisoner to prosperity. What I love about this, and it’s what attracted me to PFI in the first instance, was we should not be surprised that this mission is so close to the heart of God. The first time Jesus stands up in His in a synagogue and announces His kingdom mandate, He arguably mentions the prisoner twice.
Now I’m all for every interpretation that we can get out of that, whether it’s a spiritual interpretation, because we’re all prisoners of one type or another. Given the way that He bookends His ministry when He says, “When I was in prison, you came to me,” I cannot believe that it excludes prisoners who are genuine prisoners, not just the prisoners that we all are until we get set free.
So for us, this is ministry that really is close to the character and the heart of God and teaches us something that we all benefit from: the astounding, unconditional love and grace of God and the prisoner represents that to us. Somebody once said that basically the prisoner is Jesus in disguise. That’s really something to think about. I am so privileged to get to meet these men and women. I often say that we don’t take Jesus into the prisons; we just follow him in and we meet him there.
Dirk Smith
Amen. Yeah. I’ve said forever and that same passage, I’ve always been struck by the fact that Jesus, when He starts His ministry, he’s handed Isaiah the scroll, but He knows where he’s going. He knows exactly where he’s going because Scripture tells us, “He finds the Spirit of the Lord is on me because He is anointing me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim and release the captives, prisoners and recovery of sight to the blind to set free the oppressed to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” And then what does He stop?
Of course, when He quotes Isaiah there, what does He stop? He stops the vengeance. They were looking for an earthly king to come back and be that powerhouse and He stops it. He leaves that part off and it’s, “Let’s take care of the people and here’s who we’re taking care of.” That’s great.
Andy Corley
It’s true. If I could add to that as well, a story that we will all know really well, which is when Jesus goes across the Sea of Galilee. He gets His disciples in a boat and He says, “We’re going to the other side.” What happens on that journey, as we all know this story really, really well, is that the wind and the waves arose and the disciples get freaked out by it. Jesus is asleep. I’d always been taught and it’s a good lesson, no problem with this at all, that the point of that story is Jesus’ mastery over the elements. Of course, that’s absolutely true and thank God for it. But, the reason that they were going to the other side of the lake was because there was a man on the other side that we know as the demon possessed man of Gadarenes, who is very clear was a prisoner. He had guards and he was in chains. There was a purpose to that journey. I think that that is really interesting for us to contemplate that the reason that that was happening in the first instance was Jesus knew that there was somebody who needed to be set free, who was a prisoner, a physical prisoner.
But then that man, when Jesus sorts him out in the most dramatic way, you’ll recall he wants to follow Jesus, he wants to become one of His disciples and Jesus says, “No, you got to go back to your home community. That’s what I want you to do. Go back to your family. Go back to your community and be transformational light there.”
That’s the vision that we have, whether it’s PFI, whether it’s our national ministries or whether it’s the hundreds of other amazing organizations that are working in this space, because we’re in competition with nobody. I love your analogy of the lighthouses. We all have a part to play in this kind of thing, but we have so many stories of men and women as well that go back into their communities and from that point on, their lives are changed and they’re ambassadors of Christ and ambassadors of His kingdom. It worked back then and it’s still working today.
Dirk Smith
Yeah, that’s exactly right. It worked back then and that’s the model that He set up. That’s what He established. He said, “This is the way it’s going to work.” You see the woman at the well. She’s the first evangelist that goes into her community. He sends her and says, “Go. Leave your life of sin, but I don’t condemn you.” She goes in and she starts talking about Jesus, “There’s this guy. He’s gotta be the Messiah. Come see him.” We see her interaction and they believe because of what she says, but then they want to find out on their own. Isn’t that our journey? I’m going to believe because somebody presents Jesus to me, it pricks my heart and then I want to find out on my own. I want to dig.
That’s what we’re getting to partner. You guys are in there side-by-side. We’re able to provide the Bibles in these areas to help them to dig. As they open up the Scriptures, their lives begin being transformed by the power of the Spirit. Now, there’s other disciples who are going to go out into their communities – to use your terminology, which I think is just so spot on. You think about their communities. Who’s best to talk to their community? Them.
That’s why I love the fact that you work with indigenous people. We do the same thing. We don’t have printing presses. We put their people to work. When we’re distributing in Ukraine, we’re printing in Ukraine. We put their people to work and we work with the indigenous people. Who better to go in and open doors than the people who live in that community? They’re going to be the ones that open the doors.
Andy Corley
Absolutely and that’s a biblical model in its own right as well, isn’t it? We’ve got to trust the story and The One whose story it is. Secondly, we’ve got to trust the model, which is that when the Holy Spirit lives within a person or persons in community, then, in so many ways, that is better. Trusting that process, which is God in them in their own context, is the model that has become the one that we have adopted.
It’s why capacity building is so important to us, because actually what we’re trying to do is put breeze behind our brothers and sisters backs. We’re trying to put an arm around their shoulder and assist them in their God given calling. We’re not trying to do this for them. In the same way that you’re in partnership with us, we’re in partnership with them because we believe that that is the right way going forward. That’s how we all grow is when we’re working together in this amazing community, which has a King and a savior over it.
Dirk Smith
Isn’t it magnificent that we’re part of such a huge kingdom, Andy? It’s massive. Here we are in America, you’re in England and there’s a massive globe that has one King. What a humbling privilege and honor it is to share the message of that King, wherever we go. To be able to carry that torch. To me, that is a huge responsibility.
People look at me and they say, “Man, you travel a lot. You’re going a lot. How do you do this?” I tell people, “For the first time in my life, I don’t have a job. I just don’t have a job. It’s a calling. I have to.” When we get these requests from people, and you mentioned this earlier, the challenges, we’ve got some of the same challenges. How do we get to all the requests?
Our requests, our distribution rose 28% last year in one year. As you all know, when you’re an organization that you don’t sell anything, you don’t have revenue. That’s a challenge, but we’re just reminded over and over by God that this is not about us. It’s not about what we’re doing. It’s His because He provides. He provides the funds and we saw the income come in last year as it was needed to open these doors. It’s staggering, humbling, exciting to see the desire for God’s word in so many places and coming alongside you all has opened up another great opportunity and just an exciting one for us. It’s fun to be a part of this with you all.
Brooke Kehl
I’ve been so excited to hear about this partnership because for me, it’s tied to just how the Lord wants to expand our vision for what He wants to do. I see that with your work too, and with PFI, I can’t think of a better organization that represents the type of heart that we want to partner with. Like you spoke to, a heart that’s close to the heart of God. There’s just so many, all of these stories, I know it’s probably the same for you, but we have the privilege to hear these stories all the time that I feel like it has done so much for my faith personally.
I was just curious, how has being a part of this ministry impacted you personally, being able to be on the front lines of hearing all of these encouraging stories that we have an honor to tell and share about the transformation going on?
Andy Corley
Yeah, that’s such a great question. I do believe that working in this role alongside prisoners, families, victims has changed me more than I think that I have been able to contribute, partly because of the people that I’ve met and the ways that my own vision has been expanded in exactly the way that Dirk was talking about. We serve a God who is…this is His universe. He is the King over this universe. In the work that we’re able to do, we get a front line seat at some amazing things that God is doing in our day. That would be number one.
Number two is just hanging around passionate people. I often say that PFI members and our volunteers, we’re like the happiest people on the planet. It’s a tough area to serve in, but there’s a joy about it. I do think that’s because we are encountering the image of God in people that are very quickly written off by society and sometimes by others. That’s changed me as well.
The third area would just be this expanded understanding of who God is and His character and His passion. It’s kind of a no person left behind policy, which I do think prison ministry represents. It’s one of the expressions of that, that He leads the prisoners to prosperity. Those that everybody else has written off, God saves. We’re mandated as followers of Christ to do something about those communities, the Matthew 25 communities. I think that I have grown by the grace of God more than I have contributed. I’m grateful for that. I can’t say it any other way.
One last thing, which was provoked by an earlier comment through this podcast to your listeners today, many of whom I’m sure will be patrons. I’d just like to say a massive thank you because we can’t do our work effectively. We are the downstream recipients of the blessing that they have been to EEM. EEM, in turn, is being a blessing to us. At the end of it is an unreached people group that lies close to the heart of God. I’d just like to say a massive thank you to your donors and the people who are listening because you may never meet these people, at least not yet, but they really exist. They’re very real people and their lives are getting transformed in the same way that our lives have been transformed by Jesus as the living word and through His written word. That’s what’s happened to us and that’s what’s happening to hundreds of thousands of men and women in the prisons of the world.
Dirk Smith
Amen. Yeah. I say to our team all the time, “This isn’t about us. This is about God, but we’re being invited in to have a front row seat, to use your terminology.” I’ve said that same thing. We get a front row seat to see this great work that He’s doing and it is. Even for you all, for us, for our donors, for the people who are involved in the end. The beautiful thing about this ministry, and I think the same for PFI, is oftentimes you’ll never know you’re planting a seed. You’ll never know and I think that’s exactly the way God intends for that to happen.
I share with people that we’re in the parable of the sower business. We just need help buying seed. When Jesus tells that parable – I’m so in love with Jesus. I’m in love with His master storytelling, the absolute master storyteller – when He tells a story, everything is intentional. Every piece of it is very intentional. When He tells that parable, He says very little about the sower. That’s the one character in that parable that gets the least attention. All He says is he went out and sowed the seed. That’s all he was required to do. Just sow the seed and leave it alone. “I’ll do the rest. I’ve got this.” That’s where we help provide the seed. You guys are sowing it. Other people are watering. God’s causing that increase. The beautiful thing is we can never, Andy Corley, all of PFI, Dirk Smith, Brooke Kiel, all of EEM, can never pat ourselves on the back and say, “Wow, look what we did.” No, no, no. Everything that happens says loud and clear, “Look what God is doing. Look at this amazing God that we serve.” Just fall in awe, hit your knees in awe of what he’s doing.
When you see it happen in the lives of people – I love some of your terminology – the people that the world says, “They’re not worth it. Don’t waste your time.” Some people would actually go to Scripture and say, “Don’t throw your pearls before swine.” Are you kidding me? Look at that Scripture. Jesus is talking about just the opposite. He’s telling us those are the people you go serve. He was saying that about the Pharisees. It’s that type of ministry that I think is so near and dear to the heart of Jesus.
From day one, He said, “These are my people. Those are my people. Go love them.” Yeah, it’s going to be messy. You better believe it’s going to be messy because people are messy. Lives are messy, but get in there, roll your sleeves up and get to work. I just appreciate you all and I appreciate your leadership. I just want to tell you thank you because I know, having gone through this myself, it’s a decision to leave secular, for-profit business. There’s a lot of fun that comes with that building. I’m a builder, of that mindset as well. It’s fun to take something and grow it.
So to follow what God put in your heart and to follow that nudge by the Spirit, to say, “Okay, not only am I going to get on this Board, am I going to get to know this organization?” But then when the opportunity arose, you didn’t have to do what you did. As you tell your story, there are a lot of decisions in there. Those were decisions that you and your lovely bride, I guarantee was right by your side, in those decisions saying, “Yeah, this is good. Let’s go ahead. Sell your shares. Let’s get out of this.” When the tap on the shoulder came, “Hey, Andy. Would you consider being the CEO of PFI?” I want to say I admire and respect and really appreciate someone with your business acumen stepping into an organization like that and saying, “Yes. I’m going to continue glorifying God.” You were glorifying God before and obviously to our donors that are listening, people who have the gift to make money are a huge blessing if they recognize it’s really not theirs. So much good can be done with it. I appreciate you stepping into that space because I know that’s a big decision.
Andy Corley
I really appreciate that dirk and genuinely i do thank you. We’re really greatful to be in partnership with you guys. Thank you for your compliments about our team as well. They’re the most wonderufl bpeople. There is no doubt in my mind that I’ve been blessed far more than I deserve and it’s a genuine privledge to be in the role that I am at PFI and to have those wonderful people allow me to lead them is just great so thank you. I really apprecaite it.
Dirk Smith
I can echo that statement. I feel that on a regular basis. I look at our team here in the U.S., I look at the team in Europe and if I had any questions that this was God’s ministry, all I’d have to do is look at our team and go, “Only God could pull this team together,” because it is an amazing group of people. Thank you for your time this afternoon for you, this morning for us. We really appreciate it. I could continue this conversation and may get back over there next year, probably would be in September. I might come your way so I might give you a holler and see if you’re in country and maybe we could get together.
Andy Corley
I would look forward to it, Dirk, and maybe if there’s an opportunity at some point to do a revisit on this and report on our partnership togethera t some point down the line, that would be great too because one of the great things is sharing the stories and the testimony of impact that we’ll be able to achieve together so that would be a privilege.
Dirk Smith
Yeah, I’d love to do that. In fact, that’s kind of a standard question to ask. We’d love to have you back on so you covered that for me. I would love to revisit towards the end of the year even, maybe fourth quarter of the year to have you back on and say, “Hey, let’s talk about some stories. Let’s talk about some of the deliveries that have taken place and where they’ve gone and get some stories.” Thank you again, brother. Appreciate you so much.
Brooke Kehl
Thank you so much.
Dirk Smith
Look forward to our ongoing relationship.
Andy
Thank you, Dirk. Thanks, Brooke. Really appreciate it.